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“@theredandwhitequeen
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Thor says (this I had to actively listen for this on my second viewing) “half their people are dead”. Because that’s Thanos’ bag EVEN WHEN IT IS A PEOPLE WHO LITERALLY JUST LOST WELL OVER HALF THEIR POPULATION *ahem* so I guess Valkyrie lead the group that escaped

Yeaaaah, that’s more like 2% of the population at best, Thor.

I’ve only seen the movie once so I might have missed something but…. how does that work? I get that’s the way Thanos works but there was one ship and all remaining Asgardians were on board. Did Thanos randomly pick some of them and put them on another ship? Did Heimdall help them escape? Did Thor and Valkyrie enact an escape plan? We started the movie half way through that attack and I don’t remember getting any explanation?

@samwpmarleau
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I wonder if perhaps Rickard didn’t do more to curb Lyanna’s wildness (restricting her from riding in an unladylike manner, for instance, discourage Brandon’s enabling, etc.) because it did remind him of Lyarra. A clear parallel, then, to why Ned doesn’t do more to hinder Arya, because she reminds him of Lyanna.

Hmm, I don’t know if I’d say that Rickard didn’t try to curb Lyanna’s wildness. Horseback riding is one of the activities that highborn ladies are allowed to learn and it’s not regarded as an unladylike. Sansa goes riding several times, as does Margaery Tyrell (who has been riding since she was young) and her cousins. It’s even noted by Cersei that highborn ladies often break their maidenheads riding which is almost certainly the cause of Marg’s broken hymen. That Lyanna was a good rider or that she went riding with Brandon is hardly indicative of Rickard allowing her some leeway for her wildness. Indeed what we do know of Rickard’s position towards Lyanna is that he forbade her to carry a sword and didn’t care about her objections to the betrothal to Robert, neither of which suggest any degree of indulgence on Rickard’s part.

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@riana-one

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“@riana-one
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Lyarra dying while Benjen was a baby (please no childbirth again George!) would explain why Lyanna grew up so wild & was not willing to quietly get sold off as a perfect southern lady.

It’s a possibility but I personally hesitate to attribute Lyanna’s nature to her mother’s absence, especially in a series where Arya Stark exists. Arya takes after Lyanna is nature even with a mother and a septa overseeing her education and trying to tame her wildness and mold her into “a proper” lady. I also think that if it was simply a matter of lack of maternal/ladylike supervision, then Rickard would have taken great care to remedy the situation by providing a caretaker to make Lyanna observe her courtesies and lady conduct since he planned to marry her to the south, so I don’t know if Lyarra’s death is a satisfactory explanation for Lyanna’s wildness.

Honestly, I don’t really think of Lyarra as this ladylike figure that would have amended Lyanna’s behavior if she’d been present. Lyarra grew up with Arya Flint for a mother and while we don’t know any more about Arya than we know about Lyarra, the harsh lives that the mountain clans live and the fact that they have to withstand wildlings and Ironborn raids regularly does not provide an environment for perfect ladies. These women need to contend with harsh living conditions and raiders looking to rape or kill them; they need to know how to fight, they need to know how to raise fighters. There’s not a lot of space for courtesies and courtly delicacies in those conditions. To borrow from the symbolic statue in Bear Island, the mountain clanswomen need to have a babe in one arm and an axe in the other just as much as the Mormonts need to.

To speak of the First Flints in particular, this is the clan that bred Danny Flint, a young girl who dressed up as a boy to join the Night’s Watch (it’s worth mentioning that we don’t actually know which House Flint Danny belongs to but it’s far more feasible for her to belong to the First Flints with their proximity to the Wall and the Nightfort in particular than for her to come from Flint’s Fingers or Widow’s Watch). It also bears mentioning that the only thing we do know about Arya Flint is a line about how her blood was the reason Bran Stark was such a fool for climbing. That suggests to me that she was wild and wilful and free-spirited and a little reckless as well. I don’t imagine such a woman would raise Lyarra to be any different.

Neither would Rodrik Stark, I’d reckon. This is a guy who traveled extensively as to earn the sobriquet the Wandering Wolf, who became a sellsword and served with the Second Sons getting exposed to other cultures and customs. I’m not saying that he’d have gotten back ready to train Lyarra and Branda in arms, but I also don’t think he’d be beholden to rigid lordly conduct either. Picking a wild clanswoman for a wife in what is almost certainly not a dynastic match can only be a testament to that.

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@riana-one

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“Jon Arryn dies right after the rebellion and before Sweetrobin is…”

I am interested in what happens to Lysa in this AU.

Back to Riverrun. She’d have no authority in the Vale and no place in the court of the new ruler of the Eyrie. She might prefer seeking
out Petyr but (1) Petyr would only be a minor lord without Jon Arryn elevating him to the customs position in Gulltown and if Jon dies right after the rebellion, he wouldn’t have the chance to do even that, and (2) Petyr wouldn’t want Lysa if there is nothing in it for him. With her ties in the Vale severed by Jon’s death, and Hoster Tully wanting nothing to do with his former foster son, I don’t see Petyr humoring a woman he clearly despised. That leaves Lysa with no option but to go back to Riverrun where Hoster would definitely try to make her another political match.

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@joannalannister

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“Was lyarra stark alive during robert’s rebellion ?”

I think she died shortly after Benjen was born and that’s why Lyanna kinda ran wild. But I REALLY wish GRRM wouldn’t just leave me with WILD SPECULATION >.>

I’m half expecting Martin to tell us that she died birthing Benjen though I really don’t want another childbirth death. I’d settle for a winter fever killing her at this point, or even an accident when she was riding because I kind of like the thought of Brandon and Lyanna inheriting their love for riding from their mother. Lyarra was the daughter of a mountain clanswoman and a guy called the Wandering Wolf so I think of her as a good rider, free spirit and very wolf-blooded. I often headcanon that Lyanna takes after her mother in the same way that Arya takes after her aunt.

I do think Lyarra was dead long before Rickard put his SA plans into action, but I keep going back and forth on when she died exactly. I freely admit that any thoughts I had about her dying in Benjen’s infancy comes mostly from an attempt to rationalize her complete lack of mention in Ned’s POV.

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@athena-nygma
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But his loudest fans will scream loudly that all that what you’ve said here @moonlitgleek
is irrelevant because he was birthing saviors for the War for the Dawn,
or that he was so in love with Lyanna that it was his RIGHT to leave
Elia, because he shouldn’t be forced to be in a loveless marriage.

Well, they can’t have their cake and eat it too. If they want to argue that Rhaegar is justified because he was creating saviors, then they have to accept that he was an obsessed man who believed that the ends justifies the means and was alright with sacrificing thousands who did not need to die for his prophecy (and he was wrong about everything in that prophecy) (also perhaps they could try to explain what fighting for a throne had to do with birthing saviors) (or why he thought weakening the same institutions needed to encounter the Others’ threat – including the crown itself – was a good idea). If they want to argue that Rhaegar was in love, they have to accept that he was a selfish man who started a civil war chasing his personal pleasure which puts him in the excellent company of the Unworthy and Rhaenyra.

Whatever the case, Rhaegar does not come across as justified for several reasons, not least of which is the fact that he did not need to make things so public or so audacious. He could have accomplished either goal relatively safely without throwing so many people under the bus. So in either case, his behavior is still callous and careless. In the first scenario he believes that a magical prophecy would pick up his political slack and prevent a crisis. In the second he decides that his personal happiness takes precedence over the stability and security of the realm.
Either way he abandons his immediate duties to the realm. Either way he proves he does not deserve the mantle of king.

@ipwarn
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Yeah… but nah

@joannalannister
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That makes waaaaaaay too much sense

Yeah, that would assume that the staff’s actual job is to make the site easier to navigate and enable social interactions between its users instead of hindering it. My mistake for making such a wild assumption.

@goodqueenaly
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Sometimes I almost feel sad that I turned off Anon asks, just so I could thoroughly tell off anti-Elia people like this. Sometimes.

Ain’t worth the wasted breath tbh but eh, I was feeling charitable and weirdly it does feel good. I can always forward some to you to share in the satisfaction. Just tell me when you’d like to yell at someone.