Salute to Ned and Ben Stark, each giving his life for the sake of loved ones and protecting them as their last action.

Salute to Ned and Ben Stark, one saving Jon when he was a helpless infant and adopting him as his, and the other saving the boy he wished was his own son when Jon was injured and hopeless.

Salute to the Stark brothers, and farewell to the last Stark of his generation.

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See, by and large the show shenanigans don’t actually bother me. But this blatant revisionism? Jfc, we were there for s1, show. I’m not sure they remember they were there though.

Wellll, they forgot that Jon was recognized on sight by Mance because he looked like Ned. They forgot that Arya explicitly chose family over vengeance a couple of episodes back. They forgot that the Vale lords swore fealty to Jon so Sansa doesn’t really need Littlefinger there to keep them. They forgot that they’ve just shown that the wights remain alive in freezing water and that Jon fell in there with several of them without a weapon. They forgot that Benjen saved Bran and Meera in a similar fashion and managed to get them all out of there. They forgot that Robert’s Rebellion happened because no one would abide Aery’s tyranny, and that Jaime killed him to stop the usage of wildfire.

I can keep going, but we’d be here all night.

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That part made me so fucking angry I saw stars. STARS. I have no idea what this is supposed to be doing? Undermining Sansa but for /what/, it’s bizarre at best.

It’s the show trying to build tension between the Stark siblings to raise the stakes and make us fear that Sansa would fall to Littlefinger’s ruse and turn on Jon. It’s an attempt to make us fear a Starkbowl so we’ll be oh-so-surprised when Sansa has LF killed. They don’t care that it makes no sense for either the characters or the plot. This is DRAMA, Kim. We should know how drama works.

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moonlitgleek:

Can somebody please explain to me what breaking the wheel even means? They keep throwing out that phrase without ever telling us what they actually want to do. It’s all vague but apparently breaking the wheel is better so we should root for it. Also, Aegon Targaryen built the wheel, but what Dany is trying to do isn’t at all different from what Aegon did so, what are they talking about again?

It’s incredibly vague. It refers in some way to the Westerosi power structure, at least as it was organized under the Targaryens and since, although whether that’s the Iron Throne or monarchy period or feudalism period is unclear.

We did actually get our first actual hint as to what it might mean when Tyrion suggested shifting to an elective monarchy. Maybe “breaking the wheel” = constitutional monarchy? 

Yeah, Tyrion made his proposition just after I posted that.

I still find it really clunky though. First for all, that sentiment about breaking the wheel came from Dany about three or four seasons ago, all while she was planning to fall right in line with the Westerosi power structure. She was just replacing the BaratheonsLannisters with herself. So for this explanation to come from Tyrion, and to be met with such a reaction from Dany, undermines the idea that this is what she did have in mind, because it wasn’t. We got no indication that this was what Dany wanted, and I’d argue that refusing to recognize Jon, who was elected to his post in the closest thing to an election Westeros could have, as king works against that. Dany argued for birthrights at the start of the season against a monarch who was elected, so it wasn’t elective monarchy that she had in mind.

Honestly, I do not think that show even knows what breaking the wheel means.